I kinda suspect that if the chapter had been from someone else’s perspective, Hookwolf wouldn’t seem so competent.

Hmm, possibly. He did seem like he knew what he was doing, and his actions seemed fairly reasonable for the most part, but POV bias is a thing and it can be quite powerful with characters like him.

I love the “hey maybe Hookwolf could have considered being a teacher” comment, as far as I know that’s the first time anyone has said that. And In my opinion it kinda highlight the fact that hey, all these horrible people maybe if they had different circumstances and their heads hadn’t been filled with hate and evil then maybe they could have been alright human beings instead. Except maybe Kaiser. Fuck you Max.

I know, right? I wonder what happened to some of these characters’ counterparts – assuming that’s a thing in this multiverse – in Earth-Aleph.

Maybe Lung runs an Asian restaurant (I actually really like the idea of Lung enjoying cooking), Coil is running for mayor legally, Max is getting punched in the face on national TV, Amy is living happily with her biological father, and Colin… Colin doesn’t have a Canadian girlfriend.

Kaiser was a manioulator, using an ideology of hate to control and motivate his troops. Purity has denied being a racist, though given her actions that’s up for debate, but in any case she’s more biased than motivated by it. Hookwolf though… Hookwolf is a true believer in the ideology: he’s lumping all aryans together because from his point of view they should all be sticking together. Just like the Nazis invaded nordic countries “to protect them”, to do otherwise would oppose their worldview.

Yeah… It’s good character writing, and the fact that it rubbed me the wrong way in such a personal way only serves to reinforce that.

One thing of note is that there were points (especially when Shatterbird questioned his motivations) where I questioned whether Hookwolf was actually a Nazi, even after that and the comments about Leah’s hair. The reason for that was that there was less of this sort of thing than one might expect, and in retrospect, that too is excellent writing. Most Nazis aren’t just going to be actively thinking shitty stuff constantly – it’s a part of their worldview, thoughts that are normalized to them, not something they have to keep reminding themselves of every two seconds.

Wildbow is skilled at writing shitty people as people, rather than caricatures, which is why the POV bias is so insidious and effective with characters like Hookwolf. This can cause the readers to find themselves involuntarily sympathizing with people who they intellectually know are shitty – or at least have shitty sides – which sets them thinking. Thinking about humanity, about flaws, backgrounds, how these worldviews and behaviors happen, etcetera.

It’s a good thing Interludes are becoming more common, because it lets Wildbow do things like this more often.

Not sure how you’d interpret this in light of the rest of the interlude, but I’d guess Hookwolf would place ‘His mundane subordinates using guns’ as entirely in line with his ‘power’ theme.

Heh, I suppose if you put the quotes right there, that’s true.

When I said that, though, I meant “power theme” as in the theme of his power, which I was thinking of as “bladed weapons”. :p

“what is the head even for?” A distraction, maybe. Can’t knock him out by hitting him in the head if the brain isn’t there. And did you miss the Harry Potter reference in the original ask?

Yeah, I suppose that might be the case.

Also, nah, I caught that. I didn’t mention it, but to acknowledge that I did, I tagged the post “#harry potter”, and made the quote itself–

Whoops, totally didn’t see the hyperlink to the quote.

…yeah, that. 😛

It’s a good quote. But hey… how can we truly see where humans keep their brains without cracking open their skulls?

I guess the moral of Harry Potter is you gotta open people’s heads up before you can trust them.

Seeing you wonder about the head immediately reminded me of this: [Schlock Mercenary, Monday August 11, 2008] And apparently links aren’t allowed, despite previous people doing so?

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Hah, nice! 😛

Reminds me of the next ask, suggesting the head ruse is a distaction.

Also, yeah, asks don’t accept links. To send them, you need to adapt them so the censor doesn’t catch them, with tricks like replacing the dots with something else (parentheses around them works too, I believe). I’m sorry if an ask from yesterday’s batch confused you – it originally said “webmshare DOT com/play/KwNEV”, and I decided to go through with the replacement before posting, as well as actually making it a hyperlink.

Alternatively, you can send links as much as you like through the submission feature, which Sharks tells me is now open.

I was trying to get you to guess who the other Candidates/not!candidates for the circus were. We already had Oni Lee, Bitch and Armsy as invites and Labby-rinf as a noninvite. Who out of the cast we’ve seen is sociopathic enough to get a nice look? Who’s ominous enough?

Ah, that’s fair.

Hmm… While Burnscar <=> Spitfire turned out to be a red herring, I do think the pattern of Slaughterhouse members going after people they can relate to holds up, so that could help out here.

  • Bonesaw: Might look for someone unpredictable and brutal? Skidmark, maybe? I don’t know. Skidmark just suffered an embarassing defeat, too, and might not be unpredictable enough. Hookwolf is certainly also an option. Bakuda would’ve been perfect, but she’s currently a zombie in prison on the other side of the continent, so that won’t work.
  • Shatterbird: If we assume the trend of personalities being vaguely related to powers and themes – Siberian being wild, Jack being edgy, Bonesaw being fiery (though less so than she initially seemed), Pinkie Pie being pink and Mannequin being unhinged – then Shatterbird might be flighty. Unfortunately, the only pre-existing character I really associate with that was Oni Lee, and we’ve seen what happened with him. Maybe she’d try to find someone with power over glass, or the power to shatter things? No one really comes to mind, though, assuming she’d go for someone who’d fit into the team.
  • Crawler: (By the same logic, Crawler will probably be quite creepy. A creepy crawly, if you will.) I suspect their power is similar to Night’s in some ways, so I think Night would be a good candidate for their nomination.
  • Hatchet Face: Probably won’t get a chapter. Might get a nomination, though, depending on how strict this group is – and I don’t exactly expect them to be all that big on rules, though I don’t think they’re as loose as the Merchants. If he does get to pick someone, he might go for a Brute. Lung would’ve been a good option, but he’s not around anymore… Hm, Hookwolf is a Brute with a penchant for larger bladed weapons than what Oni used. Maybe Hatchet Face would go for him, rather than Bonesaw.
  • the Newbie: All I know about the Newbie is she’s good at finding people. Not much I can speculate from there.

Beyond that, I don’t really know. There are a lot of morally gray or black people in Worm, but I can’t think of all that many surviving Brockton Bay residents that would fit into the Slaughterhouse, even after these Interludes have proven that their standards for evilness are lower than I expected. Hookwolf remains a primary candidate in my eyes, and a couple other former E88 members could fit in nicely, but beyond that…

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