With regards to Dragon’s frustration with her limitations, you have to admit, you’d be incredibly annoyed if you were prevented from doing something because Dad saw something on tv and jumped to the worse possible conclusion, and did so in such a way that you can’t fix it without outside help

Yeah, regardless of whether it was right or wrong of Richter to do it in the first place, I can’t blame Dragon for being annoyed with it.

When there are multiple interludes in an arc, they’re labeled as (for example) 10.x and 10.y. With the exception of a coming arc that has a LOT of interludes that are labeled with .a, .b, etc.

Huh, neat.

I think I’m going to stick with my current system for tagging purposes, but it’s good to hear Wildbow did figure out how he wanted to do it after a while.

“Just look at chickens and penguins and other flightless birds.” Chickens can fly, just not very far.

Wait, really? 

Huh, so they can! Some of them not higher than a foot or so off the ground (at which point it’s arguably more hovering than flying), but some of them can fly up and roost in trees. Neat!

Have you ever watched/read Minority Report? It has a lot of relevance to your comment about stopping potential crimes by preventing them before they can happen, and what that means for the people affected by it.

Seeing as many people have interesting (if often short-sighted, though I really can’t accuse you of that) views on both the potential and dangers of unleashed artificial intelligences, I was wndering if you’re familiar with the Orion’s Arm universe? It has the most extensive, nuanced and comprehensive treatments of ai I have ever seen (hyperautism comes to mind). I often feel people should peruse at leat some of that wiki before making any significant judgements on aioid beings ^^

Sorry, I’m not familiar with either of those works. Maybe I should check them out sometime. 🙂

If everything that’s too powerful for normal humans has to be made ‘safe’, would you recommend neutering Eidolon? Because I feel that it’s essentially the situation she’s in.

‘But if you can, isn’t it better to prevent something bad from happening than punishing the culprit afterwards?’ No, not at all. The equivalent would be ‘preventative amputation’. It makes little sense when powerful parahumans walk free and uncrippled.

I find it… interesting, how quickly you went from “I want to punch Dragon’s father in the dick” to “Oh those restriction aren’t just excusable, they’re neccesary”. I’m not going to say if you’re wrong or right, just pointing it out. And on the subject it’s better to prevent than punish… well with Canary they waited until there was an accident before putting the innocent person in prison…

“I’m not entirely sold that Andrew Richter did the wrong thing in limiting Dragon like this…” I am, but I can understand his reasons (one of Worm’s unofficial slogans is “doing the wrong thing for the right reasons”), and besides the two things you mention that he couldn’t have known, he also couldn’t have known that Newfoundland would share Kyushu’s fate before he had the chance to loosen Dragon’s chains.

I’m a little confused by your stance about AIs, especially that they should be constrained because they /might/ become malicious. Lots of human beings end up malicious, but we don’t say that parents should control every aspect of their children.

Good points all around, against limiting Dragon, and pointing out the hypocrisy of my stances on it.

I went into my response to the first few of these asks a bit in the end of chapter post, how it influenced my stance, and how the chapter was perfectly set up to allow for this sort of hypocrisy-puncturing.

In the end, though, I think it all comes down to another question: When does a program stop being a tool and start being a human? Part of my reasoning for understanding Richter’s decisions is that I don’t think he viewed Dragon as a metaphorically human being who should be treated as a human when it comes to morality. I don’t think he was obligated to, either, at least not until she was about as complete as she is now. And the argument one of you brought up about Leviathan’s attack is very true – for all we know, he could’ve been intending to loosen the chains eventually.

My fave thing about the Lung/Marquis conversation is that Marquis is, like, this ancient insider in the Brockton Bay cape scene looking for more information, and Marquis is just this absolute Leeroy Jenkins doofus who has done zero research into the other BB capes.

Hehe, yeah. I suppose the second Marquis in that comparison (also known as Lung) preferred to focus on what affected his business directly. 🙂

This coming interlude is one of many that I’ve been looking forward to for a while. Just to see your thoughts. Though it seems you’ve already figured it out mostly. Which, is a fair better than I did when I first read through worm.

Congrats Krix on your joke theory being correct!

Probably not the first person to send this, but remember back when you said “To be clear, the “Dragon is trapped in video chat” theory is entirely a joke. I feel like I’ve made enough semi-serious but “out there” theories that I need to clarify that”? I am SO happy we finally get to rub this in your face :33

Hehe, yeah… Dragon being virtual started out as a joke theory (and seems to have originally been that she was a human whose power had caused her to get stuck in the virtual? I don’t remember, that’s just the impression I get from the wording I used, with phrases like “trapped in TV land” in the post one of you quoted), but over time, it started becoming plausible enough that I actually started taking it seriously, and… here we are!

And, hell, it wasn’t even the only theory involving Interlude 6 that turned out correct in this chapter! Marquis being Panacea’s dad was not a joke theory, but it wasn’t one I was all that confident in either.

You didn’t really comment on it much at the time, but do you have any thoughts on Regent being revealed to be bisexual?

Took me a while to realize this was about the “sex with himself” bit (at least that’s what I think it’s about?). I just plain didn’t think of that, but I suppose that’s a reasonable interpretation.

As for my thoughts on it… well, good for him, I guess. 🙂