For those people who think Richter was in the wrong, I like to remind them that creating Dragon without limits would basically be giving amazing superhuman abilities to a random teenager. We’ve how well that can go.

Hehe.

I mean, the random teenager superpowers are more a thing that the world has to deal with rather than something they do on purpose, with the exception of Upsilon.

…so I guess in one sense, Dragon is kind of analogous to a case 53? That’s not the conclusion I had expected to arrive at in this post.

The most tragic thing about Armsmaster, and I’m pretty sure this is not a spoiler, is that WoG has it that he could just have asked for help setting that situation up. His software worked best without outside interferences, and had he explained the workings of it to everyone they’d have helped him get his 1v1 with Levi, while giving him backup or saving his ass whenever necessary. His hubris caused his downfall, while he could have achieved the same thing but better by simply asking others.

Huh, yeah, I suppose they would’ve been perfectly willing to help set it up, no matter how suicidal the plan might seem, but of course he didn’t think, or wasn’t willing, to ask.

The best thing about Regent’s interlude is that I felt almost as sorry for him as I felt for Shadow Stalker. Yes, what he did was fucked up, but he KNOWS it was fucked up, and it frustrates him to no end that he can’t feel any worse about it. He knows how he should be feeling about it, but he just… can’t anymore. Without a body to control, he just can’t do the emotions thingy. I think that’s at least part of why he hates his dad so much. It’s really sad, for both of them.

Yeah, Heartbreaker really fucked him up. Regent’s broken, emotionally and morally, and takes it out on others just to feel something.

It doesn’t excuse what he did, but it does help him stay somewhat sympathetic after Interlude 10a. What he did was supremely fucked up and, no, I’m not going to argue when someone calls him “evil” because what he did was evil, but I still like him.

…huh. I wonder if this is how @mindareadsoots feels about Vriska.

The great thing with Richter is that on the one hand, I don’t like how he chained up Dragon, but on the other hand, he did that quite early in her development and maybe just died before he could reevaluate the necessity of those restrictions. He might’ve been not nearly as paranoid on the subject as Dragon thinks he was, but we’ll never know because he’s, well, dead.

Yeah, he could easily have ended up loosing the chains a bit if Leviathan hadn’t done what Leviathan does best: fuck things up.

What’s the weirdest, most fucked up ship you can think of? I’m not a shipper myself, but I know for a fact there’s a very prolific Sophia shipper over on the Sufficient Velocity forums who wrote a few Taylor/Sophia and Lily/Sophia fics, among many others. Anything else you can think of?

You want really fucked up? Try Coil/Dinah.

Remember this? ‘That said, the voice being synthesized kind of makes it sound like Strider is an AI or something. That’s fitting if true. Another option is that she’s mute’ (also Strider was a guy, which is not a spoiler since he’s dead and his name was on the monument)

Hah!

Huh, I didn’t notice that. A guy, but using a female-sounding synthesized voice? Sounds like a clever identity protection tactic, or maybe a trans woman who hadn’t gotten her legal name changed yet?

‘One thing I want to note about “prevent rather than punish”: I’m not saying “punish prematurely”. I’m saying make it impossible for the crime to be committed in the first place.’ This logic is shakier when applied to a being’s right to reproduce. Also, how would you keep likely victims away from murderers? Would you, hypothetically, start tagging people as likely murderers? The prevention you’re talking about can quickly become premature punishment. Just food for thought.

Yeah, I suppose there’s some truth to this. It’s certainly not a concept that should be applied universally.

That said, I’m not sure what makes it shakier when it comes to reproduction. If you view the being’s reproduction as a crime rather than a right, and have the right to make a decision on the matter (which Richter did, as far as I’m concerned, with all of the restrictions), it makes more sense to neuter it than to let it reproduce and then punish it for that.

Is that not what we do with cats?

Also, I still think Dragon being able to reproduce would potentially be more trouble than it’s worth to Dragon herself. Conflicting decisions from multiple Dragons, humans talking to Dragons that don’t necessarily share memories, alternate Dragons being captured and hijacked (tricked into thinking villains are authorities and therefore forced to obey them), etc.

Personally, as much as it’s a complete crapsack world with everything that makes ours awful with extra awful, there’d also be the hope of making a difference if my life gets bad. Probably not a big difference, but the worse something gets for you, the more you might be able to do something about it in that world. And if I had been in that world the whole time, NOT getting powers would probably also give me hope, make me feel that my life hadn’t gotten bad enough to need them.

Hm, yeah, I suppose that makes sense. 

That last thing might not necessarily apply to everyone, since it’s been implied that not everyone has the potential to get powers (in Shell 4.3), but such things might not be certain in-universe, so the knowledge of the characters is fallible, even when it’s Tattletale. Anyway, yeah, the basic idea of it works.